Your Team: Cagliari

Your Teams Player of the Season: DanieleConti (even if i sold him i think he scored 9 in 12 so he has to be him)
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Biggest Overachieving Team in England: Preston

Biggest Underachieving Team in England: Everton
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Biggest Overachieving Team in Italy: Napoli

Biggest Underachieving Team in Italy: Lazio
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Biggest Overachieving Team in Spain: Athletic Bilbao

Biggest Underachieving Team in Spain: Villarreal
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Top 3 Managers of the Season (all countries):

1 - Jamie Walker (Napoli)
2 - Simon Jenkins (WBA)
3 - David Wilson (Athletic Bilbao)
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Dream Team (pick 11 from all leagues that you'd have in your team if money was no object):

1 - Iker Casillas
2 - Daniel Alves
3 - Cristian Zapata
4 - Matthew Taylor
5 - Cristiano Ronaldo
6 - Kaka
7 - Daniele Conti
8 - Ronaldinho
9 - Ivan De la Pena
10 - Thierry Henry
11 - Adriano

rather gd dream team i think
jonny

Your Team: Leicester City

Your Teams Player of the Season: Jermain Defoe
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Biggest Overachieving Team in England: Possibley Us

Biggest Underachieving Team in England: Everton
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Biggest Overachieving Team in Italy: Brecia

Biggest Underachieving Team in Italy: Lazio
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Biggest Overachieving Team in Spain: Celta Vigo

Biggest Underachieving Team in Spain: Athletico Bilbao
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Top 3 Managers of the Season (all countries):

1 - Steven Esdale (Inter)
2 - Yves Vannestte (West Ham)
3 - Simon Jenkins (WBA)
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Dream Team (pick 11 from all leagues that you'd have in your team if money was no object):

1 - GK - Petr Cech (Chelsea)
2 - RB - Micah Richards (Arsenal)
3 - CB - Gerrard Pique (Leicester)
4 - CB - Rafeal Marquez (Barcelona)
5 - LB - Gareth Bale (Arsenal)
6 - RM - Cristiano Ronaldo (Man Utd)
7 - CM - Ronaldinho (Barcelona)
8 - CM - Cesc Fabregas (Arsenal)
9 - LM - Jose Antonio Reyes (Real Madrid)
10 - ST - Thierry Henry (Arsenal)
11 - ST - Wayne Rooney (Man Utd)

did you look at mine at all david? lol

You've done really well at Bilbao. He was having a joke with some of them I think he has Leicester as the biggest over achievers in England and Pique in his dream team

Stu

There is a lack of defenders and desperation makes people do crazy things

Your target was top 6 and you're 5th so is that really over achieving?

It would be easy if I had my Sevilla team in League 1 because I would be playing teams like you. I think playing Barcelona Valencia and Real Madrid with my team is a lot harder. I've already done the low club challenge when I took Southampton from Division 1 to the Premiership and won the Premiership a few times and the English cup a few times and finished with a treble when I won Europe as well in the old game. This is a new challenge for me starting with an okay team in a top league. When I have done well in Europe with Sevilla I will look for a new challenge again but to say that I always take the easy way is stupid

Would Leicester like a friendly at the end of the season? As you won't be in the playoff final you can show me how a real manager works

League 1 is good to write about in the media because there are some good managers in that league who are reliable manage well and good to talk to. Just look at the top 4 teams

Stu

Your Team: Sevilla

Your Teams Player of the Season: Daniel Alves
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Biggest Overachieving Team in England: Blackburn / Preston

Biggest Underachieving Team in England: Wolves
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Biggest Overachieving Team in Italy: Napoli

Biggest Underachieving Team in Italy: Parma
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Biggest Overachieving Team in Spain: Athletic Bilbao

Biggest Underachieving Team in Spain: Deportivo
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Top 3 Managers of the Season (all countries):

1 - Adam Goble (Blackburn)
2 - Jamie Walker (Napoli)
3 - Charlie Edros (Preston)
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Dream Team (pick 11 from all leagues that you'd have in your team if money was no object):

1 - Petr Cech (Chelsea)
2 - Daniel Alves (Sevilla)
3 - Kolo Toure (Arsenal)
4 - Fabio Cannavaro (Real Madrid)
5 - Matthew Taylor (Portsmouth)
6 - Kaka (AC Milan)
7 - Jason Koumas (West Brom)
8 - Cesc Fabrigas (Arsenal)
9 - Arjen Robben (Chelsea)
10 - Fernando Torres (Arsenal)
11 - Samuel Eto'o (Fiorentina)

Your Team: West Brom

Your Teams Player of the Season: Jason Koumas (was there every any doubt)
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Biggest Overachieving Team in England: Bolton

Biggest Underachieving Team in England: Arsenal
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Biggest Overachieving Team in Italy: Sampdoria

Biggest Underachieving Team in Italy: Juventus(they should be in the league above)
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Biggest Overachieving Team in Spain: Real Betis

Biggest Underachieving Team in Spain: Villarreal
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Top 3 Managers of the Season (all countries):

1 - Jamie Walker (Napoli)
2 - Drew Frazier (Chelsea)
3 - Callum Ward (Real Betis)
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Dream Team (pick 11 from all leagues that you'd have in your team if money was no object):

1 - Shay Given (Newcastle)
2 - Raul Bravo (Real Madrid)
3 - Nemaja Vidic (WBA)
4 - Jonathan Zebina (Juventus)
5 - David Rivas (Real Betis)
6 - Tomas Rosicky (Arsenal)
7 - Jason Koumas (WBA)
8 - Steven Gerrard (Liverpool)
9 - Jose Antonio Reyes (Real Madrid)
10 - Thierry Henry (Arsenal)
11 - Andriy Shevchenko (Chelsea)

Your Team: Athletic Bilbao

Your Teams Player of the Season: Curro Torres
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Biggest Overachieving Team in England: Blackburn / Preston

Biggest Underachieving Team in England: Wolves
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Biggest Overachieving Team in Italy: Napoli

Biggest Underachieving Team in Italy: Parma
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Biggest Overachieving Team in Spain: Real Betis,just because they can be beatn

Biggest Underachieving Team in Spain: Deportivo
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Top 3 Managers of the Season (all countries):

1 - David Wilson (Athletic Bilbao)
2 - Simon (Safehands) (Arsenal)
3 - Charlie Edros (Preston)
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Dream Team (pick 11 from all leagues that you'd have in your team if money was no object):

1 - Petr Cech (Chelsea)
2 - Daniel Alves (Sevilla)
3 - Kolo Toure (Arsenal)
4 - Fabio Cannavaro (Real Madrid)
5 - Matthew Taylor (Portsmouth)
6 - Kaka (AC Milan)
7 - Jason Koumas (West Brom)
8 - Cesc Fabrigas (Arsenal)
9 - Arjen Robben (Chelsea)
10 - Fernando Torres (Arsenal)
11 - Samuel Eto'o (Fiorentina)

-- Edited by dwilson23 at 15:19, 2007-10-26

Two top manager votes and two second votes. up the napoli!!!!!!!



Sevilla could make the top two in spain and there is no way they are the second best eleven in that league so you must be doing something right stu no matter what people think. calm down steve or we will have to get simon in here with his leicester leash.



I know i risk being attacked for commenting on Leicester but you were bigging yourself up at the start of the season and as your team has got better you have started to underplay your team more. i do not know why but it was something i have noticed. and because the other teams have managers who have spent wisely in your league does not mean you are under dogs because that is ignoring the hard work the others have done.

English Premiership Overachievers: Portsmouth
English Premiership Underachievers: Everton

English Championship Overachievers: Preston
English Championship Underachievers: Sunderland

English League One Overachievers: Cardiff
English League One Underachievers: Leicester (see bottom)

Italian Serie A Overachievers: Sampdoria
Italian Serie A Underachievers: Parma

Italian Serie B Overachievers: Napoli
Italian Serie B Underachievers: Genoa

Spanish La Liga Overachievers: Barcelona (see bottom)
Spanish La Liga Underachievers: Villarreal (see bottom)

Spanish Segunda Division Overachievers: Athletic Bilbao (see bottom)
Spanish Segunda Division Underachievers: Gimnastic

League One is surprisingly even and credit must go to the managers of the lower half teams (Wolves, Sheff W, Leeds, Coventry, Notts Forest and Bristol City) for making poor teams hard to beat. Ignoring West Brom, the rest of the division is pretty much anyone can take points off anyone else. I think everyone in this league has improved their teams since they joined the game but obviously those with top teams backing them (Leicester, Leeds) are the more high profile cases that take all the attention from the smaller clubs. I don't think anyone has massively underachieved in this league, Wolves were doing before the current manager joined but I think they're on the turn around at the moment. Then you have to look at the number of draws Leicester have got in the last 2 months. I just think with what Wolves have available to them, and what Leicester have available, Leiceseter probably pip it right now if I had to choose one.

Barcelona are second but I think to be 1 point off Real Madrid going into the run in is a good achievement. The likes of Sevilla are performing above expectations too but again if I had to pick one, right now Barcelona would just pip it.

Villarreal were shocking at the start of the season, along with Real Zaragoza. They both were hammered numerous times by people they should have been drawing with at least if not beating. But both have new managers who have turned things around and both are on the way up in that league. So just because Villarreal had done worse out of the 2 before the managers joined I think I'd have to pick them right now. If you look at the targets, the bottom 3 rated teams are the 3 in the relegation zone, so no one is massively underachieving in this league anyway.

Athletic Bilbao are 3rd in their league when target was top 2 but that doesn't take into account the terrible start to the season. They were another team that was thrashed continuously under another manager. The current manager has come in and like Napoli in Serie B, moved a struggling team back to the high expectations of pre-season. So for that I'd probably pick Athletic Bilbao here.

All media I write generally includes hints towards things. If I think the team isn't performing to its maximum, or is over performing, and so on. So its a good idea to keep up to date with all media pieces anyway.

The end of season summary and awards will generally represent my opinions on the season as a whole anyway, but these would be my choices so far.

There are various managers not mentioned above who I think have done extremely well with what they have available to them (this is the important thing used to measure managers in the most part), and although they haven't been mentioned, they'll have media about them or job offers from higher teams in the near future - as the season comes to an end clubs will start to head hunt some managers and this avoids you upsetting fans by applying to vacant positions how everyone has been doing so far.

Richard.

I'd like to say that i agree entirely with those who have labelled my team Wolves as the biggest under-achievers.

Wolves were labelled as a top six team and i only partially agree with this. When i joined the game Wolves were already bottom with four losses out of four, and although i haven't moved them off the bottom we managed to get a few draws and countless 2-1 losses (including against top 6 teams like Crystal Palace, Norwich, Leicester and Cardiff) which showed we were competing.

When you look at the squads in the bottom half of League 1 i have to say that there are far better players in other teams like Coventry, Leeds and Sheff Weds who are all around me so although we are 'under-achieving' i'd like to agree with Richard when i say we are at a turing point so hopefully we'll get a few points in the final part of the season.

I sympathise with all the lower divsion teams as to how hard it is to turn a team into an 'over-achieving' side so many congratulations to Chievo and Napoli for doing this.

Hopefully by this point next season Wolves and i wont be 'under-achieveing' anymore.

"...no one is talking about norwich being up there at the end as the only team to take points away from west brom..."


I think when you wake up you'll realise that was all a dream! The only points dropped by West Brom this season (so far) was a 1 - 1 draw with Cardiff.

Though Norwich are the only team Cardiff have lost to in the league this season!

Steve
Cardiff

-- Edited by Steve at 22:27, 2007-10-26

Cardiff are the only team I have dropped points against, and that was when the league was a bit tighter (we all know who those 6-pointers go!).

Simon (Safehands) - I put you as being the most underachieving team because you have a solid defense and one of the best stikers in the game, yet youre goal difference is almost 0!

Pricey - you've got a good team (although the primary language of your team is probably Spanish not English!) but I am 11 points clear, and threfore have no reason to win games anymore, as long as beat the teams at the bottom, there is no reason to go all out against the top teams.

Sorry if I sound big headed, but in the old game (as West Brom - there are now only 2 manager who have stayed at the same club since the very start of the game, me and Cardiff - since the Newcastle job change) I took West Brom from the bottom league to Europe, and got almost no attention - that is why I want to make a fuss about being so great, becasue people will think "I want to beat him becasue he will boast about it if he wins". I want to make my job harder and make it more of a challenge for me. In my opinion, the English league is the hardest, and I have already scaled that mountain - but now I want to do it again, but by taking the harder route.

Leicester - dont start a row, many people have tried to have a go at the most experienced and respected managers and have usually left the game. Te only person who backed down gracefully was Rhinosnatch, who appears to have gone walk-abouts. Is he still in the game?

Simon

lol my bad must have been sleeping that week looking forward to doing the double over cardiff now hehe

how bad will you feel then losing to a reserve side lol

-- Edited by pricey at 22:42, 2007-10-27

At least being a Norfolk team they'll all be related anyway, so win or lose they can have a big family get together. 

Steve
Cardiff

-- Edited by Steve at 08:21, 2007-10-28