Looks like Matty Fryatt is still available

Bluebird99 · Cult Status

Looks like Matty Fryatt is still available

RIGaDON · Top Flight Player

Im afraid at this point in the game with every1 wanting to sign players, there will be quite a few people let down, i for 1 have been let down by a certain Spanish manager but then again i let down Bristol City manager, its just a case of every1 doing their best for their clubs, so i wouldnt take it personally.
Kenny
Real Zaragoza

Stu · Cult Status

Nobody should have to accept being let down Kenny. Just because someone let you down doesn't give you license to let someone else down unless the deals were dependent on each other and you could do nothing to stop it. If you don't want to buy a player don;t enquire about them. Even at this early stage people shouldn't be pulling out of deals because you shouldn't be saying yes unless you want them.

Maybe I'm on my own thinking this way but at least people know if they deal with me they can bank on my reliability.

Stu

Luke_C · Cult Status

If anyone lets me down i simply wont deal with them again, its unacceptable. Ive even been offered more for a player but turned it down after giving my word

Safehands · Cult Status

Couldnt agree more guys

There are naturally a lot of deals going on at the moment, but as Stu said, unless one deal is dependant on the other - you should never be let down or let someone down

Surely even at stages like this, keep youre word and perhaps change the week when you do the transfer to avoid hicups - but i cant think of a reason where you would have to let somoene down

Ive bought a lot and sold in the last few weeks, and all the managers ive dealt with have been professional and upfront

I think the people that let managers down now will find it hurts them long term - i agree with the Man City manager - its not all about money - and id rather keep my word on a deal than break a promise and go with the highest bidder

just my two pence worth

dirkdiggler · World Class Player

Would you have done that if you were in Wenger's shoes when the bid from Barcelona came in for Henry wink

RIGaDON · Top Flight Player

Right i could go on for ever here but this should put my point across, Ath Madrid agreed to sell me M.Petrov for £3.7m but he then told me he had been offered £2.2m more for him, plz tell me if that were u, u would have stuck to the deal with me, £2.2m less, if u would have, im sry i dont believe u, and im sry for whoever is paying £2.2m more for Petrov than i was, and last of all sry to the manager of Ath.Madrid, but i had to mention it ,lol.

RIGaDON · Top Flight Player

And my deal financially didnt affect me letting down Bristol it affected me positionally in my team, and i never said it gave me a licence to let any1 down, i feel bad letting any1 down but i will do whatever it takes to make my club successful, within the rules that is, i think ur chairman would be shocked to hear that u wouldnt. biggrin
Kenny

RIGaDON · Top Flight Player

I told u i could go on for ever,lol biggrin

Stu · Cult Status

If the deal had been agreed, I would have kept to it. Even if a higher bid came in. If the initial offer wasn't acceptable you shouldn't say yes and if it was you shouldn't need to accept any further offers. I obviously value my word more than money and that seems to confuse some people here!

Stu

RIGaDON · Top Flight Player

To say u would never deal with a club again is rather severe, he may have the best young player in the game, and u have the money he wants, but u are adamant u wouldnt deal with him again, ur chairman certainly wont be happy. biggrin

Stu · Cult Status

It might sound harsh but if you don't mess me about there is no problem is there? I can't be blamed if someone messes me about. The trophies I win will keep the chairman quiet wink

and allow me to keep my morals.

Stu

RIGaDON · Top Flight Player

Stu im glad to see u r like that, and look forward to dealing with u, i dont condone it, but there can be many reasons, sum1 said he couldnt think of none, i can think of many, pure cash being 1, my reason was i needed a good ST and thought i had Petrov, but it fell through, agreed deal for Gudjohnsen but it cost more so couldnt conclude other deal, was i meant to stick to other deal which would have stopped me getting the ST i wanted and needed, i wasnt happy, but i wouldnt say i would never deal with him again, it will make me wary of dealing with him, its ur nemesis that let me down,lol. biggrin

RIGaDON · Top Flight Player

All i said was dont take it personally, and every1 jumped in with their comments, at this stage u will struggle to know the real value of players with the game just started, i have sold my squad players at minimum value that may turn out a mistake with them being worth more, so some teams are bound to agree to lower offers only to get a higher more realistic bid, all im saying is dont take it personally just now, different if sum1 is intenionally messing u about, no time for that myself.

Safehands · Cult Status

dirkdiggler wrote:

Would you have done that if you were in Wenger's shoes when the bid from Barcelona came in for Henry

Lol! I would have asked for £21million + Ronaldinho, Eto, Messi, Iniesta, Marquez and Deco...........................!

And to be be fair to Henry, he was always loyal when playing for us, so i dont bear him any grudge. I just though the board should have got more for him due to his quality - at least £20m+ i thought would have been fair when taking into account his talent and age

Rhino · Cult Status

Kenny your e-mail now means nothing to me so Thanks!

Stu of course you would turn down more money if offered !

If it makes you all happy i cancel my deal for Petrov and then we can get back to playing the game..transfer deals crash at the last minute all the time,and one thing i will point out which has not been mentioned is that if Kenny had the 3.7 which he offered last week he would already have the player its not my fault he cant manage his bank balance.

Many thanks and enjoy the GAME

Chris

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Rhino · Cult Status

Matty Fryatt Thread is back from this point....

The guy that was meant to be buying Matty Fryatt has let me down so he's still available guys. He's worth 7.3m with a bonus point for shooting but will accept £6m for him or a swap deal. I will also listen to offers for Iain Hume too although I will only be selling one of them. I only want serious offers that are actually going to go through with the deal please. Email me on steve.evans83@yahoo.com with offers etc

Sorry Bluebird99!

Bluebird99 · Cult Status

No worries - The truth is, He's gonna be sold this week. It's a very complexed deal that has finnaly been sorted.

Football Academy · Cult Status

As I've had emails regarding this thread, I'll post my response here as well. I'm not saying don't discuss the issue but maybe stick to media or Football Academy threads as while this has give Leicesters thread a lot of views, I'm sure they'd rather have kept it to Fryatt related issues.

A few managers think if more money was offered you should break previous deals while some managers think that if you've agreed a deal you shouldn't go back on your word. Its a personal thing and managers can do what they like. Technically in the game you can break your word and I have no problem with that via the rules unless an actual deal is broken half way through, in which case I'll step in to complete the deal.

If you want to know how I work, if I accept a deal I won't accept any more offers on that player which includes further higher bids. If I say its a deal, its a deal. I don't think people should be mocking people who say things like this as even if you have no problem breaking your word I'm sure there really are people on here who would do the same as me.

Kenny isn't not the only one who thinks how he does, in fact I'm sure I'm in the minority but I go on the idea that if you can't trust the runner of the game, who can you trust?!!

Richard.

Mickael Essien · Semi-Pro Player

So i dont get petrov biggrin

Steve · Cult Status

I'm with Stuart on the trustworthy transfers issue. In life you do get hit by people who drop out of deals, raise the price etc etc. Anyone who has ever bought or sold a house will know this full well. But this game is a closed community and if you live by the sword you will die by it.

Pretty much all the "elite" managers in the first version of the game were people who kept their word in transfer deals and built up a good reputation on this basis. Did they end up as top managers because of this or does such an attitude / policy mean you are equipped to be a top manager?

There were a second group of managers who found their earlier reputation hard to escape - to their cost.

Let's face it, if you put in the time and effort scouting a player and arranging a deal do you want it to collapse because someone has agreed it one week and then collapsed it the next because he's been offered £0.1m more? Even worse if you have set up a string of deals and one bit collapses taking the rest with it. Would you go back to that person for a future deal? Would you loan players to a manager who has stuffed you in a deal? Other managers see this going on and they also form their own opinions as to who can be trusted. How much is your reputation in the game worth?

Public statements about how you would drop out of a deal for more cash are crazy - would I want to deal with someone who said "don't trust me I'm too greedy" - why would I? If you haven't been offered what you want for a player just don't agree the deal and keep them on the market - it's not difficult!

There are all sorts of disadvantages to being a manager who can't be trusted, lots of advantages to being trusted. I'm quite happy to stick to the trusted side so if I agree a deal it stays agreed.

Steve
Cardiff

Rhino · Cult Status

Right,

I have been through all my e-mails to see what was said in my on off deal with Kenny, i got back from holiday last Saturday to find over 100 e-mails 2 from Kenny, i contacted Kenny to say i would accept his offer of 3.7million for Petrov if he put it through that week..which i did..i then get an e-mail back saying that he only had 3.4 million and would i accept that....i said no i would rather wait for the 3.7 million next week but i would be back in touch as i have other e-mails to check through and i would be in contact after the weekends games had been done. which i did contact him to say that i had accepted another offer for Petrov which i received through a pm..i know some of you may still think i should of stuck to that deal with Kenny but in my eyes he broke the deal in the first place.

I have nothing but a good record regarding transfers in the old Fa game and will continue to have in this one.

You dont catch me coming on here taking a pop at a manager that lets me down (which somebody already has) maybe i should?

Sorry Kenny but i couldn't let all this keep going on without getting my facts across

Chris

Football Academy · Cult Status

Steve wrote:

Pretty much all the "elite" managers in the first version of the game were people who kept their word in transfer deals and built up a good reputation on this basis. Did they end up as top managers because of this or does such an attitude / policy mean you are equipped to be a top manager?

Would I want to deal with someone who said "don't trust me I'm too greedy" - why would I? If you haven't been offered what you want for a player just don't agree the deal and keep them on the market - it's not difficult!

Two good points that contribute to this discussion rather than fuel an argument how some posts have done. As a final thought, maybe everyone needs to look at these two points and think about it!! The last game showed that what goes around comes around.

Fryatt's sold, so I'm shutting this thread. If you want to develop this discussion you can do so via media, not on peoples transfer threads.

Richard.