Bottom league clubs striking back against the overpaid rich clubs and managers



-- Edited by messiah at 16:38, 2007-09-06

Well someone has to,this looks to be 1 of the big reasons why theres gaps between the leagues,even by chance if i get promoted this year theres no way il be able to stay up without trying to get a few loan players,its the only way us the wee clubs can get anywere,dont want to keep moaning about this topic but lads if yous have players on the bench,young or old why not loan them out,no use to yous on the bench and even more so if its a young player,they wont get better if there not playing.

David
Athletic Bilbao Manager

-- Edited by dwilson23 at 16:46, 2007-09-06

Just like to state that I do loan out players and I have 3 out already, however I now regret it because my squad wasn't the biggest to start with and now I am looking at keeping them when they come back. I think one of the major factors is that the loan periods are just too long. I loaned Iniesta out at the start of the season and now the team have a new manager and Iniesta isn't playing even though he is one of the better players in the side so loaning isn't too lucrative for teams with the length of the loans being so long.
I like to ask if Richard can look into giving us the choice of loan periods and or also the option to recall the player if we feel that he is being waisted as Iniesta has been. He was young and great potential but now half a season has gone and he has played 4 games.
I don't knoww if I'm alone in this but if I could loan players for say 4 or 6 weeks to start with, make sure the players are getting the games then obviously talk about extending the loan length, I would be more inclined to say yes to managers in order to help.


Allan - Barca

The big clubs will want to sign all our young players when they arrive. when they have their own young players arrive who are not good enough they will want them to play. why should i take someones young player on loan to benefit them if they have ignored the older players who would benefit us small clubs more. tough talk now will come back and bite you in the arse. Jamie

This has been a shame for some big clubs too. In order for my players to gain experience and also to help some managers out as favours - i left myself short in midfield and had to loan someone in

As a big club, i had the same issue as the smaller ones - no one is willing to loan players (there are exceptions to this) and it was a favour from the West Brom manager that eventually solved the problem. I am indebted to him as it was a favour and he doesnt have a massive squad himself. Leicester then helped me out with a striker for the season - similarly not with a massive squad himself. But the favour will work out when he receives my loan players next season - isnt this a better way than being cagey and hanging on to your players for no reason?

Its managers like this that make the game great and its a shame that not all clubs follow this lead and be active in not only loaning out players that are simply not playing - but also be willing to do a fellow manager a favour - knowing full well that the favour would be returned when they need it later in the game

I certainly have a shortlist of managers that i will happilly loan players too becuase of their approach to the game - and im much less inclined to loan players to teams that dont display this "help a manager out" approach to the game

I wont name names as its extremely evident who is and isnt active in this regard

At the end of the day you make your own favours and in the end you have to do whats best for your club. I havent loaned anyone out as i dont see any benfits for my club as yet, when the younger players come in I may loan to managers i trust. I dont see the need in loaning older players out, if they aint needed ill sell them, loaning old players out doesnt benifit me or my club at all. If i dont sell them then they are another option for me in the bench. Luckily ive built a squad where everyone is capable of playing and either they are kept as back up or give me options for a change in formation. No one has helped me out by loaning me players. as of this week ill have 3 players loaned in but only because they are part of deals, no one has kindly done so to help me out. Big, medium or small club everyone has to do whats best for there club and I dont see why anyone should moan for not helping them out. Its a tough world.

He was part of the Richards deal if i remember rightly?

I thgough it was, Eboue and Lljungberg on loan as well as Famini and 12m although the Eboue deal changed when talking terms for Kasper. Anyway it doesnt matter, your help is always appreciated

Ive already built up links, if no one wants to loan quality youngsters from me then thats up to them. I do whats best for my team, not everyone else. Im good to my word and those who have dealt with me would know that. I dont bullsh1t and once a deal is agreed thats it (as other managers have found out when trying to hijack deals). Id think people that ive dealt with would know how i work.
If i was a smaller club id be happy to take younger players on loan if it helped my team and wouldnt expect anyone else to leave themselves short by loaning out older players that might be needed in the future. Half a season is along time in this game and that is the biggest problem.

dwilson23 wrote:

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Well Allen if you do get your man back give me a shout,id loan him out and he would play every game,im not going anywere niether so it would be a safe bet to loan your players to me,that goes for every manager in the game,if you have any players that u want to improve but they dont fit in your team just PM me and il c what i can do for yous,id say am your most reliable manager on here and if i was thinking of leaving i just wouldnt take a loan on.

David
Athletic Bilbao Manager

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Hi David I have been away but I also see your hoping for the Espanyol job, anyway I will loan him to you if I don't get the right offer for him as I posted him for sale. I am looking for alot more than his valuation so may not get the right offer. In this case whether you are at Bilboa or even Espanyol you are more than welcome mate to take him - just so long as he plays

Allan -Barca

PS Did you have a look at Zaragoza's result last week after my post?!! Iniesta played and setup their equalizer! Richard mate you've done wonders at the club just wish you'd played him more often he would have aided to good work