Newcastle job

predator · Cult Status

Newcastle job

OFFIT · Cult Status

R u real, u've just took over as Wolves manager only being at deportivo for just less than a season, and u want to move again because times r hard, we all wish it would b that easy just swaping jobs wenever we want wen we aint getting results. Try proving urself first id say.

Stu · Cult Status

Sorry I agree. League 1 has some great managers in this season but you are one place off bottom why would a Premiership team approach you? Jamie made them a really good team so I would stick with them and try to move up the table

pricey · Cult Status

Thought it was a joke when i saw this ad are you real? You got more chance being kept on in the mint ffs. I think you made a mistake moving to wolves in the first place.

Simon · Cult Status

Glenn and Pricey putting it bluntly there!

Fletch · Cult Status

Best thing if you cant hack the pressure in league 1 is to quit and see if you get an offer elsewhere.

Dont think it would be Newcastle though

Besty · Cult Status

Adam i am sorry but you have no chance of getting the Newcastle job, what have you done at Wolves that proves you could do a decent job in the Prem? You sold their best asset Darren Fletcher for two average players and you need players like that to do well. You still have a good group of players there and shouldn't be where you are in the table. I spent the whole of my first season at Wolves langushing at the bottom of the table along with Bristol City but we were both in the top 4 last season so it takes time to build a decent team, be patient with Wolves and keep working with them, when you start to perform thats when the better job offers will come in...

Bluebird99 · Cult Status

I feel kind of bad adding weight to this arguement as it seems that it's all been said already but everyone is quite right. You are currently bottom of the league and have sold or will sell most of Wolves best players. I think you would struggle to get the Nottm Forest job as it stands having achieved nothing in the game and I hope you use this application as a learning curve.

Your fans and chairman will now be p****d off that you have applied for the Ncastle job ontop of going from a playoff team to league strugglers! The only good thing for you is that there isn't a Blue Square conference league on this game!

Ash · Cult Status

I would also like to apply for the Newcastle job, I feel that the Magpies are a big name in the football world and the Championship is somewhere that Newcastle shouldn't be.
I took over at Wigan with them dead last in the Premiership and already relegated to the Championship. I started last season with little money and results not quite going in my favour. I was dropping slowly out of Play-off places and made a last gasp purchase to keep myself in there. I managed to grab a respectable 6th place and lost the Semis on penalties...
As much as I have enjoyed managing Wigan, I believe that if I was to take over at Newcastle I could restore pride to the Toon and make the Toon Army rise again.

Ashley Harris

Wigan Manager

Liam · Cult Status

I would back Ash to take over at Newcastle. I believe Newcastle would benefit more as he has experience in the Championship and if you look at the teams that are all challenging for Promotion, it doesn't look easy. I won the Championship last season and I'm glad I am not trying to compete with the high quality teams in there this season. I think given his unfortunate exit in the play-offs, Newcastle would prefer a manager with a bit of experience in situations like that.

Liam Riste
Aston Villa

tonymdf · Cult Status

I can only Echo Liam's comments, Ashley has done well with what he has had to work with although I did think the signing of Ronaldo was a dodgy one and not selling Adam Prince to me I should really not be backing him lol but I do think Wigan will get relegated without him so just depends how much his chairman wants to keep him!!!

Good Luck Ashley

-- Edited by tonymdf on Tuesday 19th of May 2009 10:20:08 AM

Ash · Cult Status

I cannot comment on the Ronaldo signing as it was before my time at Wigan. So I can neither take the wrap for a dodgey deal or take credit for what he has done for Wigan since joining.

pricey · Cult Status

sorry but i can see the newcastle job going to someone with alot more game time tbh you have had just over one season in the game give it a bit more time hit or maybe go above your target this season then you would have a real chance of getting the job

Sinky2707 · Cult Status

you have done a good job but you are in massive trouble of falling into adminstration in the next couple of weeks i think newcastle will want someone more experienced but you never know

GarethGardner · Cult Status

I also think Newcastle will be looking at a more experianced manager. Someone who has had at least 3 or 4 seasons on the game. But you never know. You got to be in it to win it as they say. Good luck

Bluebird99 · Cult Status

GG- you just want the job so bad that you don't want anyone else to have it. I think that Liam is a good shout. He's shrewd on transfers and he has dne a decent job at Wigan.

Good luck mate, you are the best candidate out of the other clowns to have applied for it

Liam · Cult Status

WoW, hang on a minute, I wasnt applying for the Newcastle job... I was merely expressing my opinion 'Bluebird99'. I think you may have got your names muddled as I am manager of Aston Villa. I just backed Ash to take Newcstle job and he is current manager of Wigan. lol I'm so confused right now?!?

tonymdf · Cult Status

Just to add to this debate wasn't it a manager with a lot of years experience that put Newcastle in the mess they are in? I know half a season unmanaged hasn't helped but they were still a sinking ship!
Newcastle are now a chamupionship side albeit with a big tradition behind them much like everton (currently managerless and in the championship going backwards) they do not have the greatest of squads have no money so somebody going there has to think about rebuilding from what they have rather than splash the cash or selling off super stars.these so called big clubs will crumble if somebody is not given the opportunity to progress...if a manager 4th bottom of the prem can be offered the job of a team 4th in Spain why can't a manager who has shown commitment and talent be offered a team in the same league ? I don't see many people rushing to apply for the job

-- Edited by tonymdf on Tuesday 19th of May 2009 06:02:05 PM

Bluebird99 · Cult Status

yeah said Liam instead of Ash

GarethGardner · Cult Status

Steve you havnt got a clue mate. I dont even want the flaming Newcastle job ! Im extremely happy where i am. I am definately staying with Vigo this year as i wouldnt want to upset my feeder club deals. And that includes if Cardiff City or Spurs came in for me !
You just chuckle along on the laughing bandwagon they call Notts Forest

Liam · Cult Status

Well, whoever gets the Newcastle job, I only but hope for Newcastle's sake that they get appointed asap as they fielded a weak team last week; given the players that they have at their disposal, I would neither have played some of the players they did nor the formation. If this has been going on then it's no surprise that they have ended up in the Championship.

Alot of people have been quick enough to rule the two candidates out of the job due to experience, but if you look at the simple facts; Nobody has been at the post in a long time and they have dropped a division since then aswell; thus making them less appealing than before. The first candidate was set to jump up a division with a poor CV of being a journeyman. Ash is in the same division as Newcastle and I can only but guess, with the same goal (promotion). What is he to gain from managing Newcastle that he wouldn't at Wigan?!?

If Ash wants the job then I think there should be no good reason why he can't have it...

Stu · Cult Status

Martin has got two promotions in four season hasn't he? Bolton and Newcastle. He was a good manager in the other game and won lots of trophies so he deserved the move to Valencia I think

It should be very different for a new manager to move. People ask about tactics after four seasons and it is because they move every season they don't get to learn tactics with one team and still want help

Learn. Get lower success. Move to the big teams. Do it like real managers. Be a Ferguson not an Ince!

Cheers
Stu

Simon · Cult Status

wise words

pricey · Cult Status

couldn't agree more stu martin has done very well in the game and deserved the valencia job

Simon · Cult Status

Got Valencia this week - just hope I do better than whoever they beat 7-0 last week!

I dont see why Ash can't have the Newcastle job - he's obviously up for it, has done a good job at his current club and there isn't that much of a difference between Newcastle and Wigan.

Turney · Cult Status

Thanks for the guys who have supported me regarding my time at Newcastle.

For the doubters (mentioning no names) I took an ageing newcastle side in the Championship with only 2 cb ,one which was about to retire at the end of that season and got them promoted to the premiership.

I then got Newcastle to a cup final therefore gaining entry into europe. The following season wasn't so successful but i brought alot of young future players into the squad to try and replace the old guard which did effect results. Since I have left Newcastle alot of the star players at Newcastle have since been sold therefore not my fault at all.

In the old game I think I won 2 league titles and 2 domestic cups with Celtic so therefore I was fully deserved in getting the Valencia job where I had to pick up another managers debt problem.

bigwave1927 · Cult Status

I have to say. Turney is one of the best managers i have dealt with on this game. we have kind of had a feeder situ going now for a season. Every deal he has said he has stuck to. Top man. As for the Newcastle job, i cant really comment but i would like it to go to a more proactive member of the game. To the people who only breifly visit the message board and those that never, this is a great place to get to know people and peolpe that can help you out in the future.

Bluebird99 · Cult Status

I don't get the "Old game" thing. This is a new game so surely your achievements should be purely based on this game or you would end up having a massive advantage over other people.

Not doubting you at all Tuney but I think that all the stuff people spout about the old days is worthless. Thats the same for everyone not just you Martin. I agree that what you did at Newcastle was pretty good although you were the hardest person to deal with behind Rich lol

mg1 · Cult Status

I remember when this you used to be a thread about job applications - lol

Goblets · Cult Status

The "Old Game" in my opinion counts for alot. There are alot of managers from "the old game" that I have had dealings with and would do so again.

Managers acheivements and status' have been born over alot of years with Richard and this game so I dont think they should be discounted.

As a newbie I started with Athletic Bilbao, earned trust with a fellow manager by doing what I said I would, learned and progressed from there.

I tend to agree with Steve that the "New Game" is very different, but there are a few "old timers" here still, and they should be recognised for what they have done...

Ash for the Geordies!

Cheers
Adam

Simon · Cult Status

I agree with Adam on this one - however I dont think the old game was that different from what it is now. Going on Steve DE's logic; Ash should have the Wigan job because although he has only been in the game for a season or two, anyone who has spent longer in the game (including you) has 'an unfair advantage'! Alot of people from the old game went to smaller clubs - infact the only person who springs to mind who went to a big team was Simon N. so its not as if anyone is lording it over the samller teams.

The 'Hall of fame' only takes into account people from this season and there isn't anything to recognise people's achievements. People don't 'spout' about the old days and it rarely comes up in conversation, so really the only thing that it counts for is a better relationship between managers who were there - I would say my best connections are with managers from the old game.

Bluebird99 · Cult Status

Yeah but I think you are missing my point slightly Sim. I agree that you are more likely to deal with "old timers" as you have known them longer but I am talking about success within this game. For me when the "old game" finished, so did all the achievements that you guys had built up - when you started this "new game" everybody should have started from the same point of the likes of Adam, Martin, Yourself Sim would all have a huge advantage over the likes of me who only started in season 1 of this game!! Does that seem right to you? I don't. I'm not kicking up an arguement, just merely thinking that people should only get jobs on this game for what they have done on this game!

Football Academy · Cult Status

This issue was brought up last season (by the same people) and I said this then as well. In essence this and the old game are both Football Academy. While the game had work done to it, people carried over their career achievements in terms of job applications.

On the logic you're using Steve, your achievements in Season 1 of the new game don't count because it's unfair on managers who joined in Season 2... Managers who have played for longer will inevitably have had more chance to gain experience, thats life. Older equals more experience.

I do consider new game achievements and old game achievements slightly differently when weighing up job offers, but both are still important and relevent.

Despite this, I'm sure it's still wide open for managers to debate whether job offers are 'right' or not, but I'm just reclarifying the experience issue.

Richard.

pricey · Cult Status

Football Academy wrote:

This issue was brought up last season (by the same people) and I said this then as well. In essence this and the old game are both Football Academy. While the game had work done to it, people carried over their career achievements in terms of job applications.

On the logic you're using Steve, your achievements in Season 1 of the new game don't count because it's unfair on managers who joined in Season 2... Managers who have played for longer will inevitably have had more chance to gain experience, thats life. Older equals more experience.

I do consider new game achievements and old game achievements slightly differently when weighing up job offers, but both are still important and relevent.

Despite this, I'm sure it's still wide open for managers to debate whether job offers are 'right' or not, but I'm just reclarifying the experience issue.

Richard.

lol sorry to bring this up but what achievements biggrin

Bluebird99 · Cult Status

Playoffs with Leicester Pricey - Something you won't know about this season as your headed for 7th!!

Liam · Cult Status

Just made me laugh...

Haven't you just overtaken Newcastle in the League Ash?

lol