Rich,
Sounds a great idea until you consider it will be you that moves the Chairman on and puts a club into administration. I know I am at the bottom but, you had a big say in that. The Fulham Chairman only moved on in this game.
Terry.
(Still smarting.)

Top of the Premier league and Craig is still only 32 ?

my guess would be that as it update at the end of every season - this seasons games won't be included at the moment

well its the premier league FA index

frank lampard-1st wayne rooney-2nd gabby agbonlahor-3rd gareth barry-4th

Richard,
The main reason Fulham dropped into league 1 was a 20m debt when the Chiarman left, and the best players being sold under my feet.
At that time the season had not run its course.
They may well have stayed up with what they dropped down into the Championship with.
Terry

Not happy with Dave being above me!!!

I should be worth more than that purely on the amount of media I post, having said that - that's why I could be as low as I am!!

Not happy with Dave being above me!!!

I should be worth more than that purely on the amount of media I post, having said that - that's why I could be as low as I am!!


He is prob struggling to keep up with all your clubs steve

-- Edited by Milan on Tuesday 16th of June 2009 05:53:49 PM

Any good LBs for sale

20	Matt Galeozzi	Real Mallorca	12.9	4.1
22	Stephen Wells	Recreativo Huelva	11.5	3.5
16	Walter Hsu	Birmingham	14.8	3.4
28	Glenn Whitter	Roma	10.1	3.2
14	Jackie Yeo	Gimnastic	17.3	3.1
35	Richard Jefferies	Spurs	7.3	2.8
37	Liam Riste	Aston Villa	7.0	2.5
25	Huw Evans	Brescia	10.2	2.5
25	Gareth Gardner	Celta Vigo	10.2	2.5
23	Johndaniel Jaques	Napoli	11.3	2.0
31	Jonathan Petty	Reggina	9.9	2.0
36	Louis Galeozzi	Real Sociedad	7.2	1.9
41	Simon Hickman	Bolton	5.0	1.7
40	Ashley Harris	Wigan	5.5	1.6
29	Dave Davies-Evans	Leeds	10.0	1.6
27	Dale Price	Sunderland	10.2	1.5
39	Callum Jefferies	Sheff Wed	5.9	1.3
33	Andy Fletcher	Sheff Utd	9.8	1.2
38	Jonny Sinclair	Ascoli	6.4	1.0
34	Steve Davies-Evans	Notts Forest	7.6	0.8
43	Wiliam Hsu	Osasuna	4.6	0.6
45	Daniel Jenkins	Derby	3.0	0.6
46	Darren Sneddon	Reading	2.8	0.4
42	Raymond Farnell	Chievo	4.7	0.2
44	Adam Tyrone Davies	Wolves	3.0	0.1
48	Terry Manifold	Fulham	2.2	0.1
47	Ashley Davies	Torino	2.4	0.1

Is that the new table :O

Isn't it total club manager where you can buy a dog? lol

You could use your own money to invest in the club or stadium - that could raise the fans opinion of the manager...

also is that what we have earned so far in game or what we are on per season sill question i know but thought i'd ask

no you'll not be able to lol but give it a few seasons

I may earn the most but I also think that since the game has started Abramovich has invested nothing to the club. He certainly hasn't while I have been manager. Because of this I have had to try and freshen up the team by selling good youth players and swapping superstars such as Kaka. Believe it or not, it can be quite difficult to swap your good players for younger players and not get shafted at the same time.

However, I do agree that a capped percentage should be considered. Another option may be to have set percentages for different investments i.e 20% Funds, 15% Stadium Expansion, 15% Youth development and the other 50% to be kept.

Liam - In a roundabout way I agree with John on this one, I think that wages will be another way for people to earn money if they use it in the right way - same as stadiums and ticket prices, they can be greatly beneficial to smaller clubs if used right. So no, I'm not sure that it will extend the gap.

And Jozz - this only answers one of your questions but Rich told me that despite being top ranked I didn't have the highest wages because my club is really small. So yeah, I the size of the club depends too although I don't know if there are any other factors that have an effect.

My main point was the capped percentage. And why wont it increase the gap? I mean, Ash at Torino is on £100k a year and John at Chelsea is on £11m. My point is, even if you can only use 50% of your annual salary, Chelsea are set to gain £5.5m whereas Torino get a mere £500k. That's Chelsea getting an extra £5m...

So Chelsea will obviously improve faster than Torino. It's simple... Tell me Simon, what am I missing in this? I agree with what you say, that if used correctly, it can be very beneficial to smaller clubs, however, the bigger clubs are still improving and alot faster...

(names used were purely for examples, no offense meant by throwing names into convo)

No probmen Sim, I see where your coming from.

not sure if anybody has negotiated a wage with their club yet I am still unsure how it will work... for example if i agree a wage this week will that figure be listed as my fund so that if its not spent next years wage will be added to it and so on so a manager can accumulate funds to potentially buy out a club ala Barry Fry?

just a few ideas on how money can be spent

1.. invest in youth academy

2..employ more staff... physio (to help ageing players recover), additional coach's (GK Coach Defensive coach etc.) to help improve players quicker

3..buy a club scout instead of having to buy one every season

4..invest in club (programmes, fast food, club shop, entertainment like concerts held at stadium, executive box's, corporate events facilities, hotel.....all of which could then be beneficial to the clubs funds and ultimately the bank balance, all would have a seperate price to purchase.

5..pay off club debts as a loan if the chairman leaves to save the club going into adminitration and losing its best players... then if a new chairman comes in he would repay that loan to the manager as part of taking over the club

6..pay for staff trips to boost morale (although morale is not in the game stats at the moment but im sure it has been mentioned somewhere at sometime

7..3rd party ownership of a player i know wages are not listed but say a manager bought a player and then moved clubs that player would move clubs with the manager or the manager would get a percentage of the players wages/transfer fee

8..pay to undertake training courses which could be used to apply for certain jobs like Gareth southgate had to take the uefa 'a' coaching badge to keep his job, then leagues could implement minimum standards for new managers wishing to take up jobs (no use applying for Man utd job if you have only been at a league 1 club for 1 season with a FA Level 1 Club Coach which a new manager would automatically gain by joining the game... further courses could be undertaken once a season at a cost i believe there are about 10 levels

9..buy a dog lol

I know some of these ideas are vague and sketchy and some would take a great deal of setting up and dealing but they are just ideas i thought i would throw into the public arena :)

Hang on, the dog idea was mine!!

Happy 1000 post Luke lol

i was just looking for ways to boost my attendances... can i charge for dogs ??? lol

tonymdf wrote:

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can i charge for dogs ??? lol

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Are you commenting on women in Middlesbrough Tony!

 

Jozz wrote:

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Hi Rich

How do you go about negotiating over your wage? If you manage to get your wage increased are you more likely to face the sack if you do poorly? Would there be any advantage to a manager actually seeking less wages than they are offered - I would think that they would be less likely to be sacked should this happen if things go poorly?

Why would a manager wish to become a Chairman - dont quite understand how that would influence the game - would they simply wish to invest in a club in order to make more money for themselves or would their wages not be affected by investing in another club?

Finally why are some managers who have a poor rating got higher wages than managers with a higher rating? Is this simply as a result of the club that they are with?

Lots of questions I know - but I have to say that this additional twist to the game seems to add a large and welcome extra dimension.

Cheers JD Napoli

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Negotiations over your wage - These will be done through me as you currently do for unmanaged players, however based on the stats available to you (chairman rating etc.) there will be a limit on what you will be offered no matter how much negotiating happen. Also depending on your chairman, if you exceed that limit or drag negotiations on too long, they can pull out and this then may decrease the chairman rating to reflect disappointment in your apparent lack of commitment to the club.

Increased wage = Increased sack risk? - Unlikely. There will be very tiny negatives to having high wages at my view is if you're on high wages it's because you've earnt it through your game play and thats shouldn't then hinder you. The only time it may, is if another high experienced manager is available to them on much lower wages, and that replacement will only happen if they are particularly unhappy with you anyway.

Chairman features - These are being put together behind the scenes but hopefully there will be numerous options available to a chairman. These can include investing your own money into the transfer budget, or into stadium improvements. You also get the say on moving to a new ground (as you'll see currently every stadium has a differing maximum it can expand to, due to the differing sizes of the plots of land. Chairmen will also be given the option to negotiate manager wage etc. with other people but again this is something that needs to be put down in writing - but no one is going to be a chairman just yet so there's no rush.

It would also be run on a share process. Every club has a value (which would be made known to the chairman when he invests) and this rises and falls, so the chairman could sell up his shares whenever he wanted.

Rating explanation - Wages are determined on two things. The manager, and the club. So a top manager at a tiny club, will have lower wages than a lower ranked manager at a top club. This tries to stick to real life, and avoids having the most experienced managers being paid top money no matter where they go.

Hope that helps.

Richard.