Pre-Season Training

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Pre-Season Training

mg1 · Cult Status

will club finances, investment, sponsorship etc be done before Saturday as teams won't know what money they have available to spend on training camps otherwise?

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Finances go up with the team sheets, so that'll happen next weekend. Managers have to look at their wage bill, club shop and stadium income, and bank balance at the end of last season, then work out what they think they can spend.

Ultimately, the most expensive is £1 million, cheapest is £0.1 million, we're not talking massive sums of money so everyone should be able to work out what they can afford.

benjyg · Cult Status

i cant even afford £0.1m how would it work for me.

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Same as if you can't afford end of season wages, its a must have expenditure so you have to pick one, it'll send you into debt (or further into debt).

Realistically, now you can see wage bills, no one should be going into debt unless they mis-manage funds.

Richard.

benjyg · Cult Status

I was in debt from when I took over. Looks like Dover for me then lol

bigwave1927 · Cult Status

I really dont see the benfit of this unless again you are in a big club with money. The smaller clubs who cannot afford this are going to throw themselves further into debt. How can a small club warrent spending £1m on a training camp when you could buy a cb for that. So already we are behind the big clubs with money.

mg1 · Cult Status

£1m isn't all that much, its a manageable cost for most clubs besides who says the £1m training camps will have the best results - we don't know yet.

-- Edited by mg1 on Saturday 9th of October 2010 01:58:20 PM

bigwave1927 · Cult Status

mg1 wrote:

£1m isn't all that much, its a manageable cost for a most clubs besides who says the £1m training camps will have the best results - we don't know yet.

Thats fine Killer, who do you manage????. Liverpool(-9 points in real life ). If you where at a small club that will start the season in debt and you HAVE to do the training camp and this sends you into admin??? What would you feel?. As i say again. IT BENEFITS THE BIG CLUBS. Like yourself. Only my thoughts and no doubt im going to get rinsed for it.

Football Academy · Cult Status

£0.1 million is all you have to spend. If you can't budget for that, you'd have to question your management skills surely? More and more of the finances are being made available for managers to view, so you can micro-manage different aspects of the costings.

On a different note, big clubs with money will always have more options. Money gives you choices, thats life, and thats real football. What this does do is gives people the chance to waste money, maybe a £1 million pre-season has negative effects, and a big club wastes its money on that.

End of the day, its another way to see who is the best manager, and people who can't manage finances will ultimately hit problems, just like if you struggle with tactics or with transfer aspects of the game, etc.

Richard.

mg1 · Cult Status

thats fair enough, I was only giving my opinion as well. Although I do own Cadiz who have the same probably as you and its not ideal although I am guessing Cadiz's rivals are in a similar position.

Doesn't it just mirror the real footballing world that the bigger clubs can pull away from the smaller clubs due to their financial clout.

On the flip side smaller clubs have smaller wage bills, smaller targets and can aim at a lot more players (cheaper also) to improve their teams. If you finish 8th or 9th this season there is a good chance that you will finish the season with a nice little job offer for one of the BIG clubs, where as if I don't finish in the top 4 I am likely to get my P45 so I reckon it can be equally difficult at all clubs just for different reasons.

There was no need to bring the -9 points by the way smile

-- Edited by mg1 on Saturday 9th of October 2010 02:12:24 PM

bigwave1927 · Cult Status

Fair cop, so if any unmanged clubs start in admin there is only one man to blame. Agreed?????

mg1 · Cult Status

yeah the previous manager biggrin

Football Academy · Cult Status

The previous manager, who jumped ship after splashing the cash on expensive players who didn't produce the goods, I'd assume Dave.

Richard.

Luke_C · Cult Status

bigwave1927 wrote:

Fair cop, so if any unmanged clubs start in admin there is only one man to blame. Agreed?????

thing is though the training camp only costs 0.1m even without the 0.1m if they are that close to going into admin then you have to ask questions about the management of the club. Its easy enough in most cases to sell one player in week one to stabilise the club.