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Sell on clauses


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As a manager with a few good youth players, I would be keen to see a sell on clause for players if managers think it is a good idea.

My thoughts are that in real life football teams will buy a player but then will have to pay the selling team certain amounts if the players does certain things, such as scores a certain number of goals, or when he is sold on the original team gets a percentage of the second sale. 

If this was introduced managers could introduce their own terms on a deal - for example a manager would be able to state their own terms and this leaves managers to negotiate between themselves.

In order to ensure that it does not get out of hand perhaps it could be limited to one sell on clause per player.

I am not suggesting that this would apply to all players, its something that managers could negotiate over.

I remember it being raised in the old game I think shortly before it shut.

I think the key is making sure that there is a record kept somewhere perhaps on the site of such clauses. What do people think?

Perhpas a poll could be put up - I dont know how to do it!!confused

Cheers JD Chievo

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I think thats a great idea.

With the smaller clubs its harder to refuse offers for young talented players that may become superstars because the funds are so tight and its hard to refuse the big money, so when they go on to be worth £15million or so it would be good for the initial club to have some sort of percentage gain from this or other bonuses as mentioned in the previous post. 

Gets my vote 

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Sounds like a good idea lads,got my vote

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I dont mind the idea - but one thing i would add is that I would offer far less for the initial sale if i then had to pay a sell on clause in later life

Recently i bought Gareth Bale for a lot of money in terms of player trades (the classic small club versus bid club bid) and i wouldnt have gone that far if a 30 percent sell on clause was then due for example

So would managers like a better deal initially or more in the way of incentives later i think is the question?

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I think that managers would sell for slightly less if clauses were introduced.

For example i have just agreed to sell my young GK for a deal worth around £10mil, it had to be around this price for me to sell. However if there was a clause where i received 15% on the next sale then i might (cant say for definite until your in that situation) have let him go for £7mil or so.

I like to see managers buying players to strengthen their squads rather than to make money so i think clauses like this help that. (i might be wrong though!).

Could be an interesting addition to the game...



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Good point Jamie - it could go that way sure

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Like the idea although not sure how easy it would be to add...rich?

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Just one comment on what Simon said about sell on clauses affecting amounts bid. It is not necessarily the case that this would happen as it may be that someon says if a player plays in a European game then the team selling gets some money, or if they score a certain number of goals in a season for example. As a result this is not guarenteed. Nor is a future sale incidentally.

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good point JD

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"Just one comment on what Simon said about sell on clauses affecting amounts bid. It is not necessarily the case that this would happen as it may be that someon says if a player plays in a European game then the team selling gets some money, or if they score a certain number of goals in a season for example. As a result this is not guarenteed. Nor is a future sale incidentally.

Cheers JD Chievo"

Excellent points but how difficult is that to add to the game? id say quite hard?

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Hi

Any thoughts on this Richard, would it be difficult to add and also keep track of confused

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The initial idea is a possible. Sell on clauses could possibly be added as an extra column and be easy to keep track of the last team involved. However going into money for playing in Europe etc. is far too difficult to keep track of.

All I would say is, won't this benefit just the bigger clubs? To take you along my trail of thought - managers who have been in the game the longest are likely to be at the biggest clubs - new managers aren't likely to be aware of sell on clauses - so in fact older managers will pick up the players without clauses, and sell them on with them thereby benefitting big over small clubs.

My only other point is, people have said that they'd lower their prices if this was introduced. Doesn't this just mean that if people keep their prices high as normal then sell on clauses aren't actually needed, as they're just adding complication without adding to the game?

My only two possible negatives for people to discuss I think.

Richard.

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Hi Richard

Not all more experienced managers are at big clubs - look at me!!

New managers are expected to read the rules and should do so. So as long as they are there then I dont see why they should be unaware of sell on calluses. If they are on hte squad sheets as an extra item again people if unsure about  what htey meant would only have to ask.

Some people have said that they would lower prices, but as I already pointed out the sell on clause is not always guaranteed depending on hte terms of the cluase.

Perhaps the terms of the clauses that could be introduced and kept track of could, at some stage be suggested by Richard? As it would be him who would ultimately keep track of things I think. Certainly when a club sells someone on then this is the main one. But others such as if a players stats increase to a certain amount this could be a pay out, or if they score a certain number of goals, or perhaps if they make it into the team of the month. These are only suggestions of course....any comments?

Cheers JD Chievo

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